From: "Sue and Geoff Alderton" <sue_alderton@hotmail.com>

Subject: re John Alderton born 1806 /1807

I have been searching for over 7 years for the birthplace of John Alderton definitely born in Essex and definitely born in 1806 or 1807 depending on which year he submitted his details for his Convict Indents either 1837 when he was sentenced or 1838 when he was transported to Australia. His parents were John Alderton and Elizabeth and he could possibly have had a brother Daniel born 1810 when John may have been baptised this is from information passed down in the family. I have searched many records in the last 7 years but to no avail. I have searched the following Parish records from 1805 to 1810: Langham, Great Tey, Adlam, Blackmore, Takeley, Earl's Colne, Barnston, Great Waltham and Little Waltham but nothing has turned up so this might eliminate some parishes for those with any records. I am about to pay for Colchester to be searched because John Alderton was in the British Army from about 1830 to 1837 before he was court marshalled and transported to Australia. I had the Kew Records search for his military records but because he was court marshalled and not pensioned off they were not kept.

vthe Theatre Royal, Gold Street may refer to a Nonconformist chapel since these often had balconies and critics said they were like theatres

vsince it mentions the NationalSchool, I think the Tom Cat must be Thomas Catlin who was much involved with it

vbut what is the Clavering Robbery?

vwho was Monsieur Higgledy Piggledy? (there was a Pigg family of farmers at the time)

vwhat was the 'Snack with the Maniac' reference?

v'backing out' and the references to perjury suggest some agreed scheme had been abandoned, but what was it?

vAnd 'Who are the Dupes?

All suggestions welcome and should be sent to the Clavering Local HistoryRecorder:

jacqueline.cooper@virgin.net

NOTES & QUERIES – addition 22 October 2008

From: Michael Hollier, Western Australia: Michael.Hollier@dpc.wa.gov.au

I have been researching the Bradbury family of Wicken Bohunt for some years now.Although there is much information on the web and also from the Visitation documents, much of that has many errors in it, once the primary sources are examined.

I have examined a number of parish register but as I live in Western Australia so it is a time consuming exercise as I have to order and the wait for each microfilm of the parish registers to come.

There is a particular problem which I am having at the moment in not being able to find the details of a Matthew Bradbury who probably married Jane Whitgift.I understand that there may be some connection with your parish of Clavering.I understand Jane was from Clavering and thought that they may have been married there.I believe the date of marriage would be about the mid 1590s.

Michael Hollier

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From: Raymond Childs: rch99160@bigpond.net.au

I am trying to trace my ancestors for my grandchildren,and my Great Grandfather was a John Childs born 1834 in Thaxted, his wife's name was Mary, According to the census he moved to Chigwell, and earlier census have lost all trace of him.I was wondering if you could put me in touch with someone who can help me.

Ray Childs

From: CAROL TURNER: bigsnaggle@blueyonder.co.uk

Some of my ancestors lived in Saffron Walden in the 19th century.My g-g-grandfather was John Hubbard KENT and according to the 1841 census he was living in the High Street with his father William KENT (50) coachmaker; mother Ann KENT (nee HUBBARD) (45); brother Richard (22) coachmaker; sister Mary (20); sister Sarah (15); sister Emma (14); John himself(7) and younger sister Martha (5).The KENTS came from Great Chesterford - William's father Benjamin was a blacksmith there (there is still a house there called "Kent's").

John Hubbard KENT became a "second master" (used to be known as "usher") at Gresham's School in Holt, Norfolk from 1851 to 1857.Interestingly he is listed as John Hubbert KENT.He married Eliza Susannah MARCON of Edgefield Rectory (a few miles from Holt) daughter of Rev William MARCON.

John Hubbard KENT was by 1861 a railway clerk living at Wendens Ambo.He and Eliza had 2 children (my g-grandfather George Marcon KENT (1) and Nelson (4mths).It seems John had tried to establish his own school in Linton, Cambridgeshire in 1858 but it can't have been successful.(Springfield House in Horn Lane, Linton, is now a guest house).

By 1871 John is described as Agent for Burton Brewers and by now living in Lancaster with his wife and 6 children.Sadly John died fairly young in 1877 at the age of 43.His 17-year old son Nelson drowned in 1878 in the River Lune.A double tragedy for the family - as there were 2 more children by then.

I looked at Richard KENT the coachmaker, John's older brother. By 1881 he was 63, married to Susanna (59) and described as Coachbuilder (master). He seems to have married a bit later in life.

Any further information on the Kents would be most welcome.

Carol Turner

From: Susan Barnes" susanebarnes@yahoo.co.uk

I believe that my ancestor, William Talman, and his wife Hannah, were bothburied at Arkesden Church and that there is a memorial stone in the churchyard. Ivisited Arkesden Church some years ago but couldn't find the headstone.

William Talman was a renowned architect responsible for building several stately homes, including Chatsworth House, and worked with Wren on St Paul’s Cathedral. I would therefore have expected to find some information about him on local history sites but can find no mention of him.

I wondered if you have any knowledge of his connection with Arkesden and, if so, would be interested to hear from you. I would also be interested toknow the position of his grave within the churchyard.

From: Marcia Abcarian <domarabc@comcast.net>

From: FIONA BENGTSEN <fiona.bengtsen@btinternet.com>

What a magnificent site and growing all the time! I have pointed several history societies and their members towards it recently and they have been extremely impressed.

Fiona Bengtsen

From: ELIZABETH FLINT: elizabeth.darcy@btinternet.com

I have had a quick look at the new site and think it is going to be really helpful to those with an interest in the past and thedistrict covered.It is lovely to know that there are people who have undertaken such a mammoth task. I congratulate everyone involved.

Probably there are some connections between the Negus familyin Clavering and those in Arkesden. I suppose the family of Elizabeth Waylett is where I thought I might find a link with Clavering. TheNegus family, being a farming family, did move around quite a bit between Newport and definitely Arkesden. This is what I have:

Thomas Waylett b 1792 Clavering married to Sarah Trigg 1771.

They had two children George Waylettb1792 and Elizabeth Waylettb.1792.My line comes from. Elizabeth Waylett b1792.Shehad a daughter named Elizabeth Waylett (no father's name given) b1810 Clavering. She married Charles Negus (b 1809Arkesden) on 7th October 1830 in Arkesden Essex.They had 9 Children.

The other Clavering connection mentioned is Elizabeth Negus b.1733 married Richard WomelsMay 26th 1756 in Clavering.

Because of the close proximity of Arkesden to Clavering I expect therewere marriages between the villages. I have a founda few marriages and these are some of thenames. I don't knowyet where they married.

William Pluck = Mary Negus 1755

Ann Hills = John Negus 1763 (Elmdon)

John Wommel = Sarah Negus 1758

John Cakebread = Elizabeth Negus 1832

Lydia Gapes = Henry Negus 1860

Ann Negus =John Wisbey 1831

Mary Ann Negus = Arthur Jeffreys 1866

My great great grandfather John Negus, married Martha List. Martha had a sister called Caroline List (Lish) who married George Law in Clavering on 19th October 1872).

Elizabeth Flint

Researching NEGUS & WAYLETT of Clavering, Newport, Elmdon & Arkesden

From: David Smith <ds.flygard@tiscali.co.uk>